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		<title>Winterton of discontent</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another day, another Conservative MP rolls up to the Stephen Nolan show on Five Live to commit political self-immolation. This time it&#8217;s Nicholas Winterton on trains and Pete Waterman he ain&#8217;t. Just so he knows what it&#8217;s like in second class these days, I went into the City earlier on South West Trains and had [...]]]></description>
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<p>Another day, another Conservative MP rolls up to the <strong>Stephen Nolan</strong> show on <strong>Five Live</strong> to commit political self-immolation. This time it&#8217;s <strong>Nicholas Winterton</strong> on trains and Pete Waterman he ain&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Just so he knows what it&#8217;s like in second class these days, I went into the City earlier on<strong> South West Trains </strong>and had to <strong>stand next to the toilet </strong>due to the volume of people aboard. It&#8217;s pretty difficult to get your laptop out or start leafing through reports when you&#8217;ve go<strong> no seat to use</strong>, despite paying the same fare as the people who have got seats. So I hope he&#8217;ll forgive me if I don&#8217;t share his &#8220;outlook on life&#8221; when on the train, it&#8217;s just that usually I&#8217;m having to listen to<strong> kids noisily playing I-spy</strong> or someone sitting across from me using a personal music device that&#8217;s<strong> anything but personal</strong>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to have a &#8220;business environment&#8221; in which to work, but sometimes you just have to <strong>share your world with other human beings </strong>and make the compromises that that inevitably entails. He should try it sometime. My company doesn&#8217;t pay for me to travel First Class &#8211; <strong>and neither should taxpayers pay for MPs to do the same</strong>. Give them the regular fare &#8211; if they want to top it up from their considerable wages, so be it. <em>But I suspect that some of them could do with a bit of second-class travel</em>.</p>
<p>On the way back, I did manage to find a seat, open my laptop and do a few emails before the train pulled into Woking. <strong>You see, Sir Nicholas, some of us carriage-classers are capable of doing work on the train</strong>, despite being a different type of person. There&#8217;s no reason that MPs can&#8217;t do the same at certain times of the day.</p>
<p>There are many issues with our trains and <strong>overcrowding</strong> and <strong>punctuality</strong> are just the surface of a deeper problem, which the Wintertons might like to look into and lobby <strong>Andrew Adonis </strong>about.<em> The fact that the most pressing problem in Sir Nicholas Winterton&#8217;s mind is that he wants to travel first instead of second class just demonstrates how much better off Parliament will be without him.</em></p>

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		<title>End of the road</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately, the Chobham Shuttle Bus, whose representatives came to address the Horsell Residents&#8217; Association on Wednesday last week, is to terminate at the end of the month. The group hasn&#8217;t been able to find sufficient funding to give us a chance to extend the service into Horsell to bolster up the no 73 route. I [...]]]></description>
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<p>Unfortunately, the <strong>Chobham Shuttle Bus</strong>, whose representatives came to address the <strong>Horsell Residents&#8217; Association</strong> on Wednesday last week, is to <strong>terminate at the end of the month</strong>.</p>
<p>The group hasn&#8217;t been able to find sufficient funding to give us a chance to extend the service into <strong>Horsell</strong> to bolster up the no 73 route. I was a little surprised to find this out given that although the need for finances was a topic of discussion on Wednesday, <strong>the prospect of imminent closure wasn&#8217;t mentioned</strong>.</p>
<p>Yet on Friday it appears that that was the decision taken. <em>It&#8217;s a great shame for people in Chobham and also that we won&#8217;t get a chance to look at a new service for people in Horsell</em>.</p>

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		<title>Busted</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Woking News and Mail today reports Surrey County Council plans to launch a comprehensive review of its passenger transport budgets in common with most of  its other budgets. It simply cannot afford, it says, to keep subsidising bus companies to run routes that are not commercially viable and the level of subsidy has risen [...]]]></description>
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<p>The <strong><em>Woking News and Mail</em></strong> <a href="http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/s/2060777_have_your_say_in_countywide_bus_services_shakeup">today reports </a><strong>Surrey County Council</strong> plans to launch a comprehensive review of its passenger transport budgets in common with most of  its other budgets. It simply cannot afford, it says, to keep subsidising bus companies to run routes that are <strong>not commercially viable</strong> and the level of subsidy has risen from <strong>£4million</strong> in 2001 to<strong> £11million</strong> now.</p>
<p>One could say that the bus companies are being <strong>greedy</strong> and not putting enough of their margins on the commercially viable routes into helping out loss-making &#8220;social&#8221; routes. But that is a moot point because <strong>rising costs</strong> and the <strong>recession</strong> have forced them to tighten their costs too and the county council is <strong>not</strong> able to negotiate from a <strong>position of strength</strong>.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the only way to <strong>cut costs</strong> is to <strong>cut subsidy</strong> and that means routes having to change dramatically or go altogether. The spin on the county site is upbeat enough and talks about a fresh review and an opportunity to shape services but the reality is too stark to deny.</p>
<p>In <strong>Horsell</strong>, the <strong>number 73</strong> bus that goes from <strong>Chobham</strong> to <strong>Woking</strong> via <strong>Well Lane</strong> and <strong>Horsell</strong> is listed on the review document as one that the county council would like views on but is not immediately under threat. It is then <strong>really important</strong> that <strong>as many people in Horsell as possible</strong> <a href="http://www.surreycc.gov.uk/sccwebsite/sccwspages.nsf/LookupWebPagesByTITLE_RTF/Your+buses+have+your+say?opendocument">contact the county council </a>to express support for this service. It would also be a good idea for <strong>as many people as possible to use it</strong>.</p>
<p>Should the 73 service be questioned &#8211; <em>and there is nothing at this stage to suggest that it will be any more than any other route</em> &#8211; one solution is alluded to by <strong>Cllr Ian Lake</strong> in his quote &#8211; that <strong>community transport</strong> could be answer. That, of course, raises the question of <strong>who is going to pay</strong> and we had just such a question tonight at the management committee of <strong>Horsell Residents&#8217; Association</strong>.</p>
<p><strong>Chris Chaney</strong> and <strong>Edward Bentall</strong> came to speak to us about the <strong>Chobham community bus</strong> that currently runs from <strong>Chobham</strong> to <strong>Woking</strong> during peak hours and the possibility that it could be extended into Horsell, which would give us a chance to <strong>shore up</strong> at least a part of the 73 route. The committee gave a <strong>resounding endorsement</strong> to the principle of <strong>extending the service</strong> and giving this option to Horsell residents in the future.</p>
<p><strong>The question is where the money will come from</strong>. At the moment, the scheme is funded in part by <strong>Surrey Heath Borough Council</strong> and <strong>Woking Community Transport</strong>. But to extend the service would mean <strong>more money</strong>, which Surrey Heath is hardly likely to pay for given it is Woking residents who will benefit. And <strong>Woking Borough Council</strong> has little capacity for additional expenditure as things stand.</p>
<p>But <strong>I&#8217;m hopeful that we can make it work</strong> and <strong>I will certainly do everything I can to find a solution</strong> because I think that having that extra option of peak services into Woking from Horsell will give reassurance to many people in our village. The figures may suggest that few people use it but to those people that do it is often a <strong>vital part of their quality of life</strong>. <em>And a community is defined by its treatment of the minority, not the majority</em>.</p>

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